So, Instagram vs TikTok Ra, what's up, how are you? I'm good, how are you baby? Life's good. I recently signed up for TikTok just to research on this episode. Must say, TikTok is very very effective at killing my productivity. So, you're basically a TikToker now? I'm a TikToker for the next 24 hours. So, I decided I would be on TikTok for a week. Make dance reels? What is it called? Tweets? No. What's it called? TikTok? Actually, I don't know. So, we started this episode and we don't even know what the TikTok post is called. It's very good. Very combustible brains-ish. So, what's happening is Kylie Jenner, that's how you call her, right? What's her name? Kylie? Yes, I think so. Jenner, who's part of the Kardashians, right? She tweeted something saying, Make Instagram Instagram again. And the tweet or the Instagram post says, Stop trying to be TikTok. I just want to see cute photos of my friends. Sincerely, everyone. And then there is an X at the bottom. And then it also says, Please. So, I think it's a bit rich that Kylie Jenner is saying, you know, I just want to see cute photos of my friends. I'm sure there is more to her Instagram than just seeing cute photos of her friends. I think that's her entire business. Oh, definitely. This is like a proper vested interest in that. Like, she wants that algorithm to stay the way it is to make it as big as, you know, she can get. Exactly. And the X, I think, is a kiss, right? So, X and O, I think that's how it works. Or something. I don't know. Something like that. So, anyway. So, the reason we are mentioning Kylie Jenner's tweet is because Instagram is changing to be more like TikTok. And I recently got the update and it's terribly bad. So, I recently undisabled my Instagram. Which is... Something I do. I disabled my Instagram. Every few weeks, I activate it again just to check on my friends and deactivate it again. It's a pretty effective strategy. To check on cute photos of your friends, you mean? Cute photos of my friends, yes. And this time, I logged in. And sure enough, I had the update. And I was actually shitposting about this on my Instagram feed. I didn't tell you about this, Robert. I was actually recording my feed and then posting it to my story. Oh, damn. Okay. Just to show people how bad my feed is. So, I was getting... I was getting ads for all these Instagram thoughts. T-H-O-T-S. Almost regularly. Like every second or third post. And then there were some UFC videos. And some memes. And then I think very, very few posts from friends. Definitely no photos. Like some videos. So, it was actually bad. But does it become full screen though? Because I think the TikTok experience is full screen, right? Yep. It's full screen. So, when you scroll up, it actually even has that like snap feature. You know, like previously, you could... Oh, damn. It actually even has that like snap feature. You know, like previously, you could like... Like scroll on Instagram. Like continuously scroll. Right. Analog scroll kind of. Right. Whereas now it's like clicking into place kind of. It clicks into place. So, like friction, scrolling, whatever they call it. So, it does do that and then becomes full screen for video just like Instagram. And the aspect ratio for all these nerds out there is 9 by 16. So, which is very strange. Dude, that's not the worst part about the full screen experience though. So, I've not used TikTok personally. But from what I've seen... Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. Dude. your video right like in if you even if you do it in like 9 is to 16 even then it depends on the screen who is viewing it like if it's like screens these days which is like 20s to 9 rather 9 is to 20 then it's even screwed up right like you get dropped on the sides yeah that's for sure i think for a creator to be honest if you're optimizing optimize for iphone that's i mean that's the only thing you can do true because that's where all the money is and then whatever happens happens that's i think 19 uh is to 19 is to 9 right or something like that i'm not sure it's uh no idea somebody google it but it's very close to 16 9 9 16 no it's definitely not 9 16 no no no it's way taller than that way it's not that right all phones are these days all phones let's see aspect ratio i'm googling on the side by the way it is so so it's basically a nightmare for a creator who actually has to be able to do it right so it's basically a nightmare for a creator who is trying to do something that can help people in that case it's it's a nightmare to to have that framing and have that yep and it's 19.5 is to 9 so oh yeah yeah i think i was pretty close yeah pretty close so anyway so this is happening right now i'm not sure if it's a good idea to do and um it's kind of concerning first of all that like everybody wants to be tiktok don't you think like that that in itself is a big problem true i think the the uh the main guy of instagram was literally saying that right because that's where the trends are going these days that is what the people using these these type of platforms are like gravitating towards so i think that's where they also have to kind of start making these changes yeah i think that's what i've seen it's not something the creator inside me ever got appealed to you know the type of videos that are there and all of that definitely not i mean if you think about it that guy right you're talking about moseri right moseri yeah correct yeah that's what yeah so moseri was uh very eagerly posting about you know how instagram is changing to be not tiktok he says the world forces are changing or something like that but basically you know i'm not they are trying to copy tiktok and that's totally fine because that's where the money is i get it from a business standpoint i get it but that's where meta that's where facebook meta has companies have been doing also right like i think it was snapchat first right i think they had complete and they they do it like chinese people do right as in chinese companies do they just copy it i don't know how they get away with all of this stuff but they have been just copying others like for so long now yeah i mean it's more than that right like if you remember facebook was just a photo app and then they purchased instagram when it was a photo app for a billion dollars it was actually one of those first shock purchases right a billion dollar purchase for an app and no of course instagram didn't have stories back then or dms or any of these things and when meta took it over or facebook took it over everything was integrated so they did that then they copied stories from snapchat so that worked out pretty good for them and i think the implementation of um uh instagram stories is actually better than um what's that the snapchat stories yeah oh okay i've never used snapchat have you yeah yeah i have used it because just to see you know like snapchat's pretty like terrible at everything in my opinion instagram gets stories and dms pretty well uh interesting well yeah so uh they had that down pretty good and then i think instagram even had initially at least the photo part of um the app down i remember trying it when i you remember that that was actually really good like the feed uh people like peter mckinnon and like all these photographers were using instagram it was actually quite nice like you could go follow cool people and they were posting cool pictures oh that last right that lasted until about i would say 2015 or maybe something like that and nobody cared about your follow count or like count it was just where you went to share cool pictures and uh i do remember that that was pretty cool actually from of instagram yeah exactly i wish uh they could have just stuck to that that would have been epic but of course they did not because i'm sure that's not a good monetization strategy um but yeah and then they integrated all this stuff and i think at some point i think we are slightly getting out of that phase now but instagram entered this phase right where basically there's a set amount like a set thing that you do on instagram to get famous basically you uh go to some beach or like you know like some travel destination and you basically look picture-perfect and you know you're like oh i'm gonna go to a beach or like you know like some like you know like some travel destination and you know like some travel destination and you know like some especially when it comes to women like all all of them are basically perfect on instagram literally flawless oh true like right like like visually perfect i would say and then and i'm not saying the women are perfect the picture is perfect big difference right because there's so many apps and photoshop and like whatever face to you and all these things and um yeah so you create a perfect picture and then you post it and then you get likes that became a thing and then and the worst thing with that that whole trend that started i think that started with facebook and facebook also but it went way ahead with instagram is that people's happinesses in that particular trip was dependent on how many pics they got which they can eventually either post or post right away that was even worse like you post it right away like hashtag i'm enjoying but are you though yeah by the way the desi version of that that is sharing to whatsapp oh yes family whatsapp group oh very much oh not family whatsapp so that used to be before before stories on whatsapp came right oh everyone just put stories on whatsapp right they call it status or something and it's so annoying like for example i hate the state like i think major majority of the people listening might not share this opinion but i hate that status tab okay i used to like whatsapp as just a chat app that it used to be but now it has that status thing and it's compulsory like you can't disable the feature so then what i do is like i go to each and every status and every time i see a new status i mute it permanently so that i don't see that dot i see like that you know you know what i'm talking about that tiny dot that you can see if a new status has been put oh i see so my whatsapp is permanently disabled i only check it every now and then by which i mean like every once a week or so so whatsapp in india is like the i message of us basically so you cannot live without you just cannot be a socially functioning adult in india without having whatsapp installed yeah and by the way in the u.s it is now of course there's i message but now it is slowly becoming actually instagram dms more people are communicating via instagram dm isn't that worse than i message oh yeah for sure there's no question about that but uh yeah that's that's the trend and i don't even think dms are end-to-end encrypted right if i'm not wrong there is no encryption that probably goes yeah probably goes as plain text directly to their machine learning algorithm uh so not kidding so i think that's the trend and i think that's the point we're trying to make is right instagram had a cool history like they started as a cool photo sharing app built a great audience then turned into some sort of you know frankenstein app where you know they figured out how to get attention right that's that's where instagram always stood for me like if you're famous on instagram what that means to me is that you get a lot of attention like since 2016 or so like and then now it is going from attention to basically entertainment in my opinion and that's how i see it so at least what they're trying to do so i think they're going from uh photo first to video first right that video first yeah so they are rolling that back a little bit this week but they said so what zuck said uh the ceo of meta is that next year uh they're going to be mostly focused on video reels um so they they did a few changes so i actually want to walk through some of the changes here right so the first thing they're doing is like you said the changes to um uh photos and videos so basically videos become central then they become right first like not just like first rate but they're also shown first so they change the algorithm to show you more for more videos as opposed to photos so that's why i think you know you know why they like one of the reasons why they must have done that is because of the retention right like yeah like videos are way more captivating way more like attention grabbing than any photo can ever be right easily like with most things with brain and dopamine and all of that like once you have say set set off like when you have an expectation that is set say for example photos now photos can't satisfy you anymore like you can't have photos even if they are like really great photos you'll still want something more to get that dopamine hit like you will want say videos now you know it just you just have to keep going up so i think that's where maybe people are feeling photos are boring now compared to videos no definitely and by the way um i just learned recently from hooberman lab that there is no such thing as a dopamine hit that is actually yeah there is a misnomer and actually you don't even get any dopamine from um looking at videos so dopamine um this is all hooberman this is not me but apparently dopamine is purely a motivational chemical so in the sense that your dopamine goes up higher before you actually look at instagram so you see what i mean interesting yeah yeah it's like a enabling agent rather than uh like a posting but then what what should be the posting like there must be something right so that depends on what you're doing so quote unquote dopamine thing yeah so dopamine you still use it as motivation right so you can apparently use dopamine to do anything so if you so what i've done for myself is like i do a cold shower and caffeine in the morning that um has really helped my basically motivational state to be high throughout the day so i have like so you do the cold shower thing legit like for years now not years um since only hooberman said right so like what seven eight months okay okay but it legit works oh yeah and i do completely freezing cold shower like in the morning first thing in the morning i'll get into a cold shower absolutely freezing cold shower for three to four minutes and after that liquid death liquid death yeah which shout out liquid death um and then i'll get my caffeine and then that puts me in a motivated state right so after that nice whatever i do is up to me so for example after i do calisthenics i do calisthenics so calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics calisthenics warm water or something like that does that significantly make you more lethargic than say a cold shower as oh yes it's not noticeable oh yes it is very noticeable it's not lethargic per se but the feeling that you will have after a freezing cold shower you will not have after a hot one so as your body tries to cool down after a hot shower right so you you just increase your body temperature the feeling is totally different as opposed to you being in a cold shower and trying to warm up so that cold shower gives you that you know dopamine of like let's go and the hot shower just makes you feel good like if that you know you feel good but you don't feel that go signal with at least for me with cold showers i'm ready to go man like you know this there's some boring meeting in the morning i'll be so active in that meeting even without even without any caffeine it's like it's like one of those really boring uh presentations video presentations where the the host is trying to sound very excited that's how you are is it uh almost it's just a very nice you know like motivated state and if i add caffeine actually sometimes caffeine becomes too much for me i don't know how much caffeine of a user you are not much though not much okay that's probably good but recently like this year or like since two years i've been really drinking a lot of like strong coffee you know like uh like espressos mochas cappuccinos actually you want to drink a lot of strong coffee you know like espresso mochas cappuccinos so i think caffeine is kind of like kind of like kind of drown soy soy soy soy don't have high caffeine content if i ever have like a proper huge coffee then i properly get those especially i've noticed like towards the evening or at night if i ever have coffee i i i genuinely am not stable you know stable in the sense of that i'm saying yeah you get jitters and it's it's a very shitty feeling so i'm trying now to like reduce my caffeine because just with cold showers and exercises i'm able to get my body into like a completely motivated state so you know why not so and liquid death and for people that don't know what liquid death is google it google it we recommend you to google it so shout out to liquid death sponsor us actually liquid death you should sponsor us man like listen man we we need your money like ra and me we need your money you know like liquid death you have a great marketing campaign we always drink your shit when we record this podcast we pay good money for your you know liquids sponsor us give us money put us on your fucking like website do it oh just imagine that yeah fuck yeah so anyway so i'll reach out to liquid death to sponsor this combustible rains podcast good point you must yeah and merge buy our merch which doesn't exist yet so we should get back to the topic we should yeah probably so uh what were we talking about before we went on this crazy i think the video to photo you were talking about instagram how it used to be oh yes yes so this video thing right definitely videos are way more engaging way more engaging and i can tell you from like being on tiktok for a week or so um tiktok has some things figured out you know so well that's amazing how well it knows me so for example on tiktok i started following all these stand-up comedian accounts i really like tiktok i really like tiktok i really enjoy that and then you know like usually like stuff like tech which has always been my interest and then you know like i follow some ducati like you know like some motorcycle stuff man like they have it down so perfect that they know my interest i feel better than i do so and every single click on tiktok tiktok is entertaining 100 and i don't get that shitty feeling that i get on instagram you know like i go there i can actually have fun so but then do you do you end up like seeing say kylie jenner or any like hot chick type of pics that not a single one get so annoyed with instagram with not a single because that's something that's what we hate about instagram right like yeah every time even if you're like following just your friends or you know like your hobbies or something like that you always end up getting like these these like super uh you know artificially created hot chick images right which you're like no i don't want to see that but here's the thing man a lot of people especially a lot of few girls actually texted me when i was posting the story saying they do not get posts like that they get posts for like whatever they're into but i know what happens you know with when you're a guy somebody will share some hot girls like profile with you you'll click it of course you'll click it and then you go to a profile scroll you know look at you know like few pictures look at a few related pictures close it then instagram immediately thinks that this is all you do you know it thinks that this is this is your life you go to some like fake ass boobs tits you know like all this shit you look at it and you enjoy it and instagram immediately zeroes on in uh you know like this as your primary interest and i think that's my observation that could very well be because and it makes sense also because say for example like you do something like that and then say you go to that tab i forgot what it's called like it's like that search thing where you see random stuff right so if you go there then say even then you don't say scrolling okay oh yeah so the man brain part of like you know our brain so we see some pic like that it we might be lingering on that pic like slightly like two seconds more or one second more you know and that also must definitely be part of the algorithm which will say oh i'm sure maybe the bike pic you are say these many seconds whereas like some hot chick pic you are seeing it for like few seconds more or you know some shit like that oh yeah yeah i'm sure that must be screwing it for even when we don't want to see pics like that yeah i mean to be honest like it's so like you know instagram has gotten so bad you know it's fake like when you go out have you ever seen a girl like that like okay sure you might see a few if you go to like you know like a very specific influencer bar of course yeah but you know what i mean but of course like in india if you go to a bar in say uh south bombay or something where all of uh you know bollywood lives of course you're going to see this right of course you're going to see this so yeah but this is not reality this is not real life but they they push it on you and i think that strategy has stopped working so with videos now they want that same you know attention that instagram is able to get except their algorithm sucks so when i look you know when i look through my instagram feed all the videos were shit like i lost interest almost instantly you know they were like ads for a lawnmower moisturizing cream like bro yeah dude then some hot chick with some fake tits then a car a bike and then some other shit like that so it's like you know it's like so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so 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your app you know oh exactly man exactly and then we need to like talk about how tiktok makes it like how tiktok is different from all of this shit oh yeah yeah so ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so as you know these companies put on tiktok or chinese companies so instagram the way they you know succeeded with reels i think they succeeded right i think a lot of people use reels and shit i think reels uh i'm not sure but definitely with stories with stories they definitely succeeded dms isn't that the same oh sorry i'm that really no reels is video but like static video it doesn't go away basically that's the difference right right right right so yeah but exactly but the point is people do use instagram right they use instagram a lot and i think they will succeed like i have no doubt about it and by the way saying all of this i am not feeling sad for tiktok or chinese companies because all these years chinese companies and china they have done the same shit right they've copied all the good stuff from the world blatantly without caring about any copyright this that nothing yeah yeah yeah they i've heard they even copy like things like tvs and bajaj scooters and oh and shit like that like to the to the like rickshaws and you know all of those things also yeah so they copy things like blatantly so i'm not worried that you know in that sense i'm okay with like them copying tiktok because that's what these companies also would have done but yeah i hope they at least nail the algorithm right and like we were talking instagram should again feel like a good place place for people like us it doesn't matter through what like i'm not that concerned maybe i'm not that attached to instagram that's why i feel so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so percent of your feed with people you don't follow with recommendations from their ai so of course this is going to be garbage yeah so of course this shit is going to be garbage and i think they're trying to copy a tiktok feature here so tiktok has two tabs their ux is actually pretty good so there is a one called for you and then one i think is called following or friends or something like that so just interesting okay and which is the base one like where do you or can you choose like which one you want as the no actually i don't know if you can choose what the default is i think the default one goes to your uh recommended feed from tiktok yeah it must be for you yeah i guess yeah yeah but the for you feed is amazing on tiktok it nails it nails your interest so i think if instagram can do that i think instagram will succeed although it will have to evolve a lot and they will you know they will hook people on no doubt about it and i think like you said instagram is huge man they have infinite amount of money lots of talented engineers and so on so i think it's kind of like a link between the link between the link between engineers probably going to succeed so america yeah plus they have america lots of you know lots of freedom in the way like the company can operate and so on so that's uh probably still you know as long as they as long as they like take away the delta that is there right now in the algorithm i think instagram will still continue being awesome awesome as in for like you know people who use addictive right yeah so i think i'm giving instagram about two years of pain from this point because it takes time to catch up you know so it's going to take say maybe not two years hopefully maybe like a year or a year and a half before they catch up on the algorithm and the ux and you know they have to figure out all these things right people have to adapt people like kylie jenner have to stop bitching about it like all these things have to happen but it was really rich her saying these things but yeah yeah come on like you do like shut the fuck up you know and i'm sure more people are going to get more famous on instagram because of the algorithm change with the recommendations you know random accounts are going to get very famous now that always happens when algorithm changes happen which won't be combustible brains we will still be sitting in at like 18 followers but and three three listens and three listens so that'll still be us but somebody else who makes you know for baby videos or something yeah yeah something like that or what videos so that's kind of like kind of like kind of like kind of like kind of like kind of like What did you say? For baby videos. I don't even know what that means. But like, I'm just making stuff up. Or, you know, like some cringe anime stuff or like whatever you put a tail in your ass or something, whatever. Like, you know, whatever these Gen Z people do, they'll probably become famous very soon. These Gen Z people. I just feel so old now. We are old, bro. That's accepted. We are old. And I'm glad to be old. I don't want to be, you know, like mentally challenged and 20 today. Like, I just don't want that. So, definitely would have been me because I was fucking hooked to the internet when I was young. You wouldn't have been able to come out if it was today. Like, you would have been stuck into that world. Yeah, I remember actually, I think you or somebody made a joke that I used to live on Facebook. No, no, no. The joke was that PB is either at home or is on Facebook. Exactly. It was the joke. Exactly. So, when I was 18, like, this is what I used to do. So, if I was or 19 or even 20, whatever, so, if I was 18, 19, 20 today, I would have been a TikToker and my outcome of life would have been significantly worse. I'm just imagining you as a TikToker. Or maybe not, you know, but maybe I would have still survived. But it would have been significantly more difficult for sure. So, people are going to get fucked. Instagram will continue to make more money. So, that's our prediction. And the metaverse will fail. I think that is another prediction that I want to add. Yeah. Because the metaverse sucks. I mean, I... That was so brutal. Dude, metaverse fucking sucks. I bought the Oculus Rift. You used it, yeah? Dude, I have the Oculus Rift. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I tried spending time in the metaverse, quote unquote. Dude, it's so fucking terrible. I would rather, like, go, like, walk on the streets all alone with nobody surrounding me. So, you know, the outside is still millions of times better. You know, millions. No, the outside would be million times better even if metaverse... Metaverse was good. So, there's that. Metaverse sucks. Yeah. So, metaverse sucks. Zuckerberg stopped wasting billions of dollars on metaverse. They lost 2.8 billion. But he's so convinced though, right? He's convinced. Even now, he's so, like, he has so much conviction that metaverse is the thing and it will work for sure and all of that. Yeah, yeah. He's saying he's going to make trillions of dollars from metaverse by 2030 or something. So... But you know how we were talking, like, when metaverse just came out? Maybe, you know, a few episodes back when we were, like... Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about metaverse, right? So, that time we had concluded one thing, right? Like, even if it is utter garbage, if, like, enough quote-unquote influencers or, like, Kylie Jenner type of people come on to it and say that it is good, people will just follow, right? Even if their experience is shit. I think for the metaverse, what you have to first do is make people very fat and inactive. Like, you want to take their ability to go outside away first. Because it's just terrible to be on the metaverse today. Like, if you try... Right? You're like, oh, fuck this metaverse. There is one more, like, such a shared universe type of app which is much older and much more famous, right? I forgot the name of it. I mean, there's few. There was Second Life from Linden Labs, I think, which was the first one. Or maybe first, second one. There's VRChat. There is... There is one more. I forget its name. But there are a few. There are a few. Yeah, these two names aren't the ones I was thinking about. I forgot what the name was. But, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there are a few. But these are fringe niche... They all suck, though, right? They all suck. So, nobody wants to live on these apps. Fuck that. You know, I would rather go outside. Dude, I don't even like to, like, have my phone with me. If I had a choice, I would let go of that. So, forget this, man. Forget this. So, I think that's still going to be, you know, a stretch goal for anybody. And, you know, that's all we wanted to talk about, really. I mean, we just wanted to go over, like, TikTok. Like, Instagram. Changes started happening. Future of the metaverse. Like, stuff like that. And big changes coming for social media, I think, in the next two years. We just wanted to let you know that your life is going to change. It's never going to be the same again. Because it's Instagram that is changing. Like, the lifeline. It's true. I mean, what life do you have anyway, right? Like, you live on the app. So, there you go. There you go. We have to shit on our listeners. Like, most of our listeners... Yeah, it's not been as epic, though, as it used to be in the initial few episodes. It used to be, like, way, way, way... We used to shit on them a lot more. Because back then, we even had listeners. So, now, they just left. So, there's nobody left to shit on. So, if people start listening to this again, then maybe we can shit on them. But until then... Good point. There's nothing to shit on. Yeah. No one to shit on. That just sounds bad. Yeah. True. True. True. True. It reminds me of this singer. Anyway, I'll tell you offline. It's not... Otherwise, I'll have to make explicit equals true on the iTunes-like thing. So... Cool. Cool. Cool. Okay. So, that's it. And, well, follow us on... Actually, that's a... I was going to troll here. But, actually, Radh, do you want to announce some, like, social media stuff, presents that we're going to create soon? So, we're thinking of having, like, having Instagram back. Like, we might get a handle soon, hopefully. If all goes well, maybe we both will be TikTokers permanently, as in we'll have a TikTok account, too. Yeah. So, what we're thinking is... And this is, you know, just an idea. But I think we are going to start posting some clips from our episodes, which can be tediously long. So, we'll post some clips from our episodes to some platform. Haven't figured that out yet. Maybe Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, somewhere. Twitter. Who knows? And then we'll also have some social media presence. And the goal of that... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... And the goal of that is... Let's hope that, man. Let's hope that. Yep. So, yeah. Until next time, then. Yes. Until next time. Bye-bye. All right.